Moon-Crane wrote:Just watching the MotD highlights. Suarez definitely should have been given a penalty this week. Looks like refs are giving decisions based on past reputation rather than the actual challenge. Currently giving a green light to players to go through him and then claim a dive every time. I did chuckle when he hammered home that second goal just as the Norwich fans were singing that song about him Bet he'd like to play them every week.
Hans the German Butler wrote:Ok - so Suarez dived. It was ridiculous and even slightly comical. But Tony Pulis needs to go on some anti-twunt training course. You cannot send your team out to kick the opposition off the pitch and then accuse your opponents of cheating. I hate Stoke - they make no attempt to play football. McCarthy's Wolves were the same. A bunch of thugs who just lumped the ball to the big bloke in the hope of getting a goal against the run of play. Pulis is a despicable man with a despicable approach to football.
Moon-Crane wrote:I was surprised that, when Pulis was rambling on about Suarez, the interviewer didn't follow it up by asking whether Huth should have been sent off. He was very cynical throughout.
I'm not a Pulis fan. Fair play to him for keeping Stoke comfortably in the Premier league - it's no mean feat to survive - but he often tends to fall into a cynical style in my eyes, and always pleads the hard done to line. Similar to Sam Allardyce in many respects.
I'm with Paul Merson on the whole diving thing. We need a panel retospectively looking at Premiership incidents and handing out lengthy bans for any cheating. Gareth Bale's was an awful dive as well. Various people were trying to defend it as accidental/just trying to avoid a collision, etc, but that's shite in my eyes. It was simply not the motion you make to avoid contact.
I havne't seen the alleged elbow by RvP in our game, but i see the FA and ref have come out to say there's no further action to be taken anyway.
Hans the German Butler wrote:I think Mick McCarthy identified last year that RvP is dirty and cynical (pots and kettles come to mind from the former manage of Karl Henry) who tends to get away with his little swipes because he's seen as a flair player.
Moon-Crane wrote:Hans the German Butler wrote:I think Mick McCarthy identified last year that RvP is dirty and cynical (pots and kettles come to mind from the former manage of Karl Henry) who tends to get away with his little swipes because he's seen as a flair player.
Was it Dennis Bergkamp who used to be similar in the 'naughty' stakes? I'm sure he got away with a fair few dodgy things - probably because he was such a wizard with the ball.
Moon-Crane wrote:Hans the German Butler wrote:I think Mick McCarthy identified last year that RvP is dirty and cynical (pots and kettles come to mind from the former manage of Karl Henry) who tends to get away with his little swipes because he's seen as a flair player.
Was it Dennis Bergkamp who used to be similar in the 'naughty' stakes? I'm sure he got away with a fair few dodgy things - probably because he was such a wizard with the ball.
Moon-Crane wrote:Solid enough win for England without playing particularly well. 5-0 won't be enough for the press and the mouthier social media people, though, as everyone seems to want to compare it to the Dutch scoring 11 last year.
Good job we had Baines and Ox playing well enough on the left as i'm not sure what the hell Walker and Lennon were doing on the right all evening. Not sure what the point of Lennon is at all to be honest - he's not international quality. Pity Walcott was assaulted so early on and had to be replaced by Lennon.
I think we missed a Johnson or two on the right this evening. In spite of what the Spurs fans think, Walker isn't ahead of Glen Johnson in the right back role. Would have been nice to see what a combination of Glen and Adam Johnson could have done down the right against a team like this.
I know it's only San Marino, but Shelvey looked alright when he came on anyway. Certainly offered more than Carrick.
Good turn around for Wales against Scotland, Ben. Good old Gareth Bale, eh?
Moon-Crane wrote:I thought i must have been remembering the wrong player after both your replies, so i asked a bunch of old Arsenal fans about Bergkamp and they surprisingly agreed that he was quite a dirty bastard masked by his genius ball skills. They were saying it's often come up on Gooner fan boards as people argued who was better between Bergkamp and RvP.
In other news, why are Newcastle being marked out by the media as a disgrace for accepting sponsorship from Wonga? How come other clubs get no grief for their sponsorship income from equally/more dubious companies in the loans or betting industry? Nobody seemed to give a shit about Wonga previously giving money to Blackpool and others. Now it's a huge deal?
"We knew there would be heavy rain but we could not 100% predict the downpour. We will have a pitch inspection to decide whether we postpone the game by an hour, to tomorrow or to whenever. At the moment it is not possible to close the roof because of the heavy rain and the wind. It might be possible.
"There is no need for people to be our working on the pitch. We have a heating system which, if we close the roof, can dry the pitch in 30 minutes. I know this situation is not very nice, but please wait until the inspection."
Moon-Crane wrote:What a farce in Poland. Good planning by UEFA to not force the Poles to close a perfectly good roof on the stadium when the rain started hours ago. Now it's apparently unable to be closed because of bad weather
I love the Polish FA's media officer's nonsense:"We knew there would be heavy rain but we could not 100% predict the downpour. We will have a pitch inspection to decide whether we postpone the game by an hour, to tomorrow or to whenever. At the moment it is not possible to close the roof because of the heavy rain and the wind. It might be possible.
"There is no need for people to be our working on the pitch. We have a heating system which, if we close the roof, can dry the pitch in 30 minutes. I know this situation is not very nice, but please wait until the inspection."
welshben23 wrote:Moon-Crane wrote:What a farce in Poland. Good planning by UEFA to not force the Poles to close a perfectly good roof on the stadium when the rain started hours ago. Now it's apparently unable to be closed because of bad weather
I love the Polish FA's media officer's nonsense:"We knew there would be heavy rain but we could not 100% predict the downpour. We will have a pitch inspection to decide whether we postpone the game by an hour, to tomorrow or to whenever. At the moment it is not possible to close the roof because of the heavy rain and the wind. It might be possible.
"There is no need for people to be our working on the pitch. We have a heating system which, if we close the roof, can dry the pitch in 30 minutes. I know this situation is not very nice, but please wait until the inspection."
I just saw this on facebook, "Roy Hodgson to make two team changes if the game starts tonight. Tom Daley and Rebecca Adlington to play up front in place of Defoe & Rooney!"
Moon-Crane wrote:Can't believe the Serbian FA have come out and denied any racism from their fans, or any wrongdoing from their staff, during the under-21 game versus England last night. They've even got the gall to blame Danny Rose for causing the trouble - calling him the innapropriate and unsportsmanlike perpetrator amongst it all. Absolutely diabolical.
I'm amazed that nobody decided to walk off during the game last night - let alone having to deal with the crap at the end. I would have walked off on behalf of any team mate getting subjected to such vile bullshit.
No mention of any trouble on UEFA's own website and the silence from Platini and Blatter is deafening. If Serbia, who are already supposedly on their final warning, receive no sanction (i include a few thousand Euro fine as no sanction) then UEFA can eat shit.
Moon-Crane wrote:I agree it's probably better to try and work together to keep improving things. I've no particular problem with the Kick It Out initiative. I do, though, think i've got no right to tell a bunch of black players that they should be supporting something that they believe is not working for them as effectively as they'd hope. If they believe a number of things are nothing more than token nods then i have to back them to make that point. If a number of black players 'protesting' makes the Kick It Out/FA/Football League people reflect further and admit to their limitations then it's probably no bad thing. I'll never turn to them and say everything's better than it used to be so the work's done and they should be grateful blah blah.
I don't know much about Rio's personal life, so if he is a misogynist arse (like a fair few other footballers) then i absolutely condemn that side of things. Doesn't affect my view of backing him on the racism front. Misogyny in football is indeed rife, and another area that needs initiatives to deal with it. And, unsurprisingly, another problem that isn't helped by that idiot, Blatter, being in charge at the very top.
Moon-Crane wrote:Yep, no need for players to have separate players unions, i'd hope. Just get more involved with the players union, i suppose. Who runs the players union at the moment? I'm sure Rio could look to get into that area if he feels so strongly. Is Clark Carlisle a spokesman for the union, or am i getting it mixed up with some other footballing body?
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