DHPfan wrote:not like mindless slap-stick comedy,
Forever Jung wrote:DHPfan wrote:not like mindless slap-stick comedy,
I love a bit of slapstick myself.
For me, Laurel & Hardy were the masters of it
Slapstick looks deceptivly easy but it's difficult to get right with great effect.
Moon-Crane wrote:Forever Jung wrote:DHPfan wrote:not like mindless slap-stick comedy,
I love a bit of slapstick myself.
For me, Laurel & Hardy were the masters of it
Slapstick looks deceptivly easy but it's difficult to get right with great effect.
I agree. good slapstick is amazing. Anyway, Frasier is full of slapstick.
Moon-Crane wrote:Yep, you need real class and understanding of high culture to understand an exploding shaving foam dispenser, or a man unable to ride a bike in a straight line.
I didn't say Frasier was exclusively a slapstick comedy, i said it was full of slapstick comedy moments. Look at the Niles segment of Three Valentines - that, to me, is slapstick from start to finish? And that's one of the most popular scenes of the whole show.
Anyway, what's the big deal about Frasier being associated with slapstick? FJ already mentioned, good slapstick doesn't make for poor comedy.
DHPfan wrote:Slapstick is, to say the least, lacking of class and it is insulting to mention in it a Frasier forum. And yes, you do need class to understand Frasier and appreciate the actors. And while, yes, in Three Valentines, he did go a bit extreme, but Niles himself is still classy, and him acting in it with so much class demonstrates its class. Slapstick does make for poor comedy, because the definition of awesome, classy comedy is Frasier. Slapstick does not require great actors or 'comic geniuses' like DHP. And thAT is the difference between Frasier and slapstick, in case you did not already understand.
DHPfan wrote:Slapstick is, to say the least, lacking of class and it is insulting to mention in it a Frasier forum. And yes, you do need class to understand Frasier and appreciate the actors. And while, yes, in Three Valentines, he did go a bit extreme, but Niles himself is still classy, and him acting in it with so much class demonstrates its class. Slapstick does make for poor comedy, because the definition of awesome, classy comedy is Frasier. Slapstick does not require great actors or 'comic geniuses' like DHP. And thAT is the difference between Frasier and slapstick, in case you did not already understand.
Any physical comedy (especially that reulting in physical pain) is slapstick.And Frasier is full of it.
One of my favorite moments in frasier (see my avatar) in the toy store at Christmas.
Niles - "Iwonder what else it does".
Frasier - "Let's see if it protects your head".
WHACK!
Forever Jung wrote:Funny enough, the person who is best suited to slapstick in Frasier is DHP.His build, his expression, his acting ability and timing make him a natural.
He's certainly the fall guy for the most memorable slapstick moments in Frasier (the exploding can of foam, the christmas shop hit, crawling into Frasier's appartment after climbing the tree in the lift, etc etc etc), nobody could get away with such laughs they way he does
Moon-Crane wrote:Forever Jung wrote:Funny enough, the person who is best suited to slapstick in Frasier is DHP.His build, his expression, his acting ability and timing make him a natural.
He's certainly the fall guy for the most memorable slapstick moments in Frasier (the exploding can of foam, the christmas shop hit, crawling into Frasier's appartment after climbing the tree in the lift, etc etc etc), nobody could get away with such laughs they way he does
Completely agree with that. It does a disservice to David Hyde Pierce to dismiss slapstick comedy when it's one of his strongest skills. He's got the timing and nuance down to a tee.
DHPfan wrote:Agreed!:) I think it would have been kinda sad if Frasier didn't have a younger brother, like originally planned... Niles is the prime target for these kind of stuoid moment because of his effeminate build and wimpyness:) And I guess just cos he is Nilesy enough to pull these kind of things off without things getting lame:) Go DHP!:)
Forever Jung wrote:DHPfan wrote:Agreed!:) I think it would have been kinda sad if Frasier didn't have a younger brother, like originally planned... Niles is the prime target for these kind of stuoid moment because of his effeminate build and wimpyness:) And I guess just cos he is Nilesy enough to pull these kind of things off without things getting lame:) Go DHP!:)
So we have converted you to the wisdom of slapstick then?
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