Dorset Girl wrote:I can't vote, because I really don't know. I had the same thoughts when I watched the episode.
ouroboros wrote:Dorset Girl wrote:I can't vote, because I really don't know. I had the same thoughts when I watched the episode.
How could you of all people hurt poor wee Niles?
Dorset Girl wrote:ouroboros wrote:Dorset Girl wrote:I can't vote, because I really don't know. I had the same thoughts when I watched the episode.
How could you of all people hurt poor wee Niles?
Oh, you're right, I couldn't do it. Okay, option 1 then!
Seriously, reading other people's responses has made me realise that in certain situations, I probably would lie.
DHP wrote:Like others above, I'm also a cracking liar, but I prefer not to do it. I think you have to treat others as you'd expect to be treated, and I personally find it hurtful to learn I've been lied to, and I prefer not to gamble on the possibility of "if they don't find out I've lied, it's ok..." Also, in the long run, the truth is always best even if at the time it seems easier to lie.
Bee Gees Fan wrote:DHP wrote:Like others above, I'm also a cracking liar, but I prefer not to do it. I think you have to treat others as you'd expect to be treated, and I personally find it hurtful to learn I've been lied to, and I prefer not to gamble on the possibility of "if they don't find out I've lied, it's ok..." Also, in the long run, the truth is always best even if at the time it seems easier to lie.
Would you agree that white lies are okay, though?
I think avoiding hurting someone's feelings can be better than telling the truth, unless it's a matter of great importance, in which case, offending them might be unavoidable.
Bee Gees Fan wrote:DHP wrote:Like others above, I'm also a cracking liar, but I prefer not to do it. I think you have to treat others as you'd expect to be treated, and I personally find it hurtful to learn I've been lied to, and I prefer not to gamble on the possibility of "if they don't find out I've lied, it's ok..." Also, in the long run, the truth is always best even if at the time it seems easier to lie.
Would you agree that white lies are okay, though?
I think avoiding hurting someone's feelings can be better than telling the truth, unless it's a matter of great importance, in which case, offending them might be unavoidable.
DHP wrote:Bee Gees Fan wrote:DHP wrote:Like others above, I'm also a cracking liar, but I prefer not to do it. I think you have to treat others as you'd expect to be treated, and I personally find it hurtful to learn I've been lied to, and I prefer not to gamble on the possibility of "if they don't find out I've lied, it's ok..." Also, in the long run, the truth is always best even if at the time it seems easier to lie.
Would you agree that white lies are okay, though?
I think avoiding hurting someone's feelings can be better than telling the truth, unless it's a matter of great importance, in which case, offending them might be unavoidable.
Not really, I think it shows disrespect to the other person and what you think of their capacity to handle something or their right to know. Frankly, I find that lying to someone about something simply means they'll find out the truth later instead of now. Then not only do they get the hurt you were arrogantly trying to protect them from, but they also lose the trust they have for you. I've seen that happen among a few of my friends, who used to be close and no longer speak to each other. It's not worth it.
DHP wrote:Not really, I think it shows disrespect to the other person and what you think of their capacity to handle something or their right to know. Frankly, I find that lying to someone about something simply means they'll find out the truth later instead of now. Then not only do they get the hurt you were arrogantly trying to protect them from, but they also lose the trust they have for you. I've seen that happen among a few of my friends, who used to be close and no longer speak to each other. It's not worth it.
CatNamedRudy wrote:I respectfully disagree with you DHP! Especially looking at DG's example.
Sometimes, saying something that isn't exactly true to avoid hurting someone's feelings is indeed the best route to take. Would you tell somebody their baby was ugly? Even if it was the ugliest baby you've ever seen in your life? How is telling them they have an ugly baby showing them any respect?
Additionally, I'll go back to Martin's argument. If by admitting that you didn't Mirandize somebody whom you know damn well is guilty or didn't do it "properly" a criminal is going to walk free, I find nothing wrong with it.
Bee Gees Fan wrote:But if, by telling someone the truth, you do really upset them a lot, then wouldn't it have been better to lie to spare their feelings?
DHP wrote:If you're lying to someone to spare their feelings, you're assuming they're too stupid to find out the truth elsewhere, which again shows a lack of respect to someone.
CatNamedRudy wrote:Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one DHP!
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