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Battle of the Seasons - Best Overall Episode?

The Two Mrs Cranes
4
15%
Shrink Rap
0
No votes
The Matchmaker
0
No votes
Flour Child
0
No votes
Kisses Sweeter than Wine
0
No votes
Mixed Doubles
0
No votes
The Adventures of Bad Boy and Dirty Girl
1
4%
The Last Time I Saw Maris
0
No votes
Dad Loves Sherry, the Boys Just Whine
0
No votes
Back Talk
1
4%
Seat of Power
0
No votes
Come Lie with Me
0
No votes
Moondance
3
12%
The Ski Lodge
2
8%
Room Service
0
No votes
Look Before You Leap
0
No votes
Daphne's Room
2
8%
Ham Radio
6
23%
Give Him the Chair
0
No votes
Breaking the Ice
0
No votes
Travels with Martin
0
No votes
Author, Author
0
No votes
The Innkeepers
1
4%
My Coffee with Niles
6
23%
 
Total votes : 26

Battle of the Seasons - Showdown

Postby Cake for Brains » Fri May 18, 2007 8:40 pm

And there we have it... 24 polls, 24 winning episodes... as chosen by you! I think we did really well to keep this going for as long as we did, so I'd like to say a big thank you to everyone that voted and made these 'Battle of the Seasons' polls successfully (maybe they could become a yearly tradition). On the whole I think it's a pretty good batch of episodes, obviously there are some absolute classics missing such as 'Halloween', 'Out with Dad', 'Dial M for Martin', 'Dinner Party', etc, but I guess they just were unlucky enough to draw some extremely stiff competition. Episodes that I don't really think deserve their place on the poll include 'Author, Author', 'Come Lie with Me' (sorry BN/Strat), 'Breaking the Ice' (although I still like it), 'Seat of Power' (it beats High Holidays!), Adventures of Bad Boy and Dirty Girl (sorry Rudy) and Flour Child (much as I love Christopher Lloyd). And I know I said this poll wouldn't start until Monday, after the 'Episode 24' poll expires, but I can't see anything overtaking 'My Coffee with Niles' now, so thought I may as well get on with it. I'm not setting a close date for this poll, like the previous ones, so it'll be open forever and ever! Happy voting - let the showdown begin!

Below is our ultimate season;

THE TWO MRS CRANES 35% (6 votes)
SHRINK RAP SEASON 25% (4 votes)
THE MATCHMAKER 36% (8 votes)
FLOUR CHILD 46% (7 votes)
KISSES SWEETER THAN WINE 55% (11 votes)
MIXED DOUBLES 47% (8 votes)
THE ADVENTURES OF BAD BOY AND DIRTY GIRL 26% (5 votes)
THE LAST TIME I SAW MARIS 36% (6 votes)
DAD LOVES SHERRY, THE BOYS JUST WHINE 37% (6 votes)
BACK TALK 50% (8 votes)
SEAT OF POWER 33% (6 votes)
COME LIE WITH ME 21% (4 votes)
MOONDANCE 73% (14 votes)
THE SKI LODGE 66% (12 votes)
ROOM SERVICE 42% (8 votes)
LOOK BEFORE YOU LEAP 33% (6 votes)
DAPHNE'S ROOM 40% (8 votes)
HAM RADIO 73% (13 votes)
GIVE HIM THE CHAIR 36% (7 votes)
BREAKING THE ICE 36% (7 votes)
TRAVELS WITH MARTIN 44% (8 votes)
AUTHOR, AUTHOR 27% (5 votes)
THE INNKEEPERS 44% (8 votes)
MY COFFEE WITH NILES 50% (9 votes)

I thought it'd be interesting to break the episodes down and discover which season was best represented and got most episodes into the final poll. Perhaps surprising, Season 3 came out on top, with a third of the 24 episodes qualifying and winning their respective polls. I've always believed that Season 3 contains the best stand-out episodes - and these results seem to confirm this. Season 2 came in second place managing to win 5/24 polls, with third place being shared between Season 1 (which managed to get 4/6 when it came to the last 6 polls) and Season 4, which is generally viewed as the best season. I don't think I expected Seasons 8-10 to win any of the polls, but it'd hugely disappointing to note that neither Season 6 or 11 have any episodes representing them here. Season 7, which in my opinion, is weaker than these two managed one representative in this poll, thanks to 'Back Talk'.

Anywhere, take a look:

Season 1 (4 winning episodes)
Season 2 (5 winning episodes)
Season 3 (8 winning episodes)
Season 4 (4 winning episodes)
Season 5 (2 winning episodes)
Season 6 (no winning episodes)
Season 7 (1 winning episode)
Season 8 (no winning episodes)
Season 9 (no winning episodes)
Season 10 (no winning episodes)
Season 11 (no winning episodes)

WRITERS (Writers are credited if they were responsible for co-writing Moondance)
1. Joe Keenan (6 episodes)
2. = Christopher Lloyd (4 episodes)
2. = Chuck Ramberg and Anne Flett-Giordano (4 episodes)
2 = Steven Levitan (4 episodes)
5. Linda Morris and Vic Raueso (3 episodes)
6. David Lloyd (2 episodes)

No other writer received more than one winning episode.

The winning scriptwriter was always going to be Joe Keenan - winning a quarter of the 24 polls, which is very impressive indeed. The shock entry in joint second place is Steven Levitan, who also received 4 episodes into the final poll (Seat of Power, Breaking the Ice, Come Lie with Me and Moondance, the latter of which he co-wrote). Slightly sad to see that Rob Greenberg and Jeffrey Richman didn't manage to get any of their episodes into the final 24.

Some interesting bits of trivia:
* There were only two polls that tied here, which meant I had to go by Stu's episode ratings. 'Miracle on Third or Fourth Street' lost out to 'Come Lie with Me' (82% vs 87%) and Perspectives on Christmas lost out to Dad Loves Sherry, the Boys Just Whine (90% vs 92%). Note that if these two losing episodes hadn't been beaten then Christopher Lloyd would have had the most episodes in the final poll.
* Moondance and Ham Radio drew for highest percentage scores/number of votes - each knocking up 14 votes apiece and 73% of the total. Of the qualifying episodes, 'Come Lie with Me' scored the lowest number of votes (4) and percentage score (21%).
* There wasn't a single poll where all 11 episodes received a vote.
* The 'Episode 3' poll received the highest number of votes with 22.
* Only 13 episodes from BN's recent 'Ultimate Season' appear in this poll!
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Postby me123 » Fri May 18, 2007 8:49 pm

After much deliberation, The Two Mrs. Cranes wins for me, which is my third favourite episode, being beaten by the wonderful season 7 finales. (Which, sadly, failed to make it here :( )

A big thank you and congratulations got out to Cake For Brains, who has done a terrific job organising such a large polling operation, and puts the Scottish Executive to shame. Truly this has been the best "Frasier" poll hosted on the forum.
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Postby Moon-Crane » Fri May 18, 2007 8:52 pm

That's a beautiful set of episodes to choose from, but My Coffee With Niles still stands as my number one episode, so i must choose it here.

It's been a great set of polls, Cakey.
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Postby Cake for Brains » Fri May 18, 2007 8:58 pm

A big thank you and congratulations got out to Cake For Brains, who has done a terrific job organising such a large polling operation, and puts the Scottish Executive to shame. Truly this has been the best "Frasier" poll hosted on the forum.


Thanks me123!

It's been a great set of polls, Cakey.


Cheers MC!

So we have a vote each for Episode 1 and Episode 24, how interesting! However, there are some fantastic episodes on the list, but I find myself drawn to 'My Coffee with Niles', which is my second favourite episode. I might change my mind - but I'm voting now, before it becomes even more difficult to make a final decision!
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Postby Davey Boy » Fri May 18, 2007 9:04 pm

Great work on the polls Cakey! An very good analysis and stats on the final list too! As for my vote, it has to go to my all time favourite episode, The Two Mrs Cranes!
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Postby Cake for Brains » Fri May 18, 2007 10:51 pm

2 votes a piece for the first and last episodes - come on, let's fill in the gaps in the middle!
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Postby Wezzo » Fri May 18, 2007 10:57 pm

Cheers on doing a brill job on these Cakey - and great final analysis.

But after all of that, for me, it still comes down to exactly what I imagined.

Ham Radio.
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Postby Mr Blue Sky » Sat May 19, 2007 9:20 am

Yeah, fantastic work Cakey - I was looking forward to the 'stats' breakdown too! Very interesting to see Steve Levitan in the final shake-up (although he did pen my favourite S3 ep) but no surprises to see JK sitting on top of the pile (although interesting that it would have been CL, but for Stu's ratings!).

It's a shame about S6. Unfortunately the stellar eps that season came up against even more stellar eps from other seasons - Dial M For Martin was particularly unlucky to be the third ep that season.

Very interesting stuff anyway, thanks for all your hard work. I'm going to save my vote for later, but I'm thinking Daphne's Room at the moment.
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Postby Pisa32 » Sat May 19, 2007 9:38 am

So tough! Although my favorite episode Martin Does it His Way is absent from this batch, I had to go for The Ski Lodge. Farce at its best!
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Postby Stratman » Sat May 19, 2007 9:53 am

''Daphne's Room'' for me.
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Postby Mr Blue Sky » Sat May 19, 2007 10:12 am

Stratman wrote:''Daphne's Room'' for me.


Yeah, I've always rated The Matchmaker and The Ski Lodge higher than Daphne's Room, but I think that has the best chance of saving us from another dreaded win for Ham Radio! I'll wait a few more days to see if my vote can influence the outcome at all.
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Postby CatNamedRudy » Sat May 19, 2007 3:07 pm

Bad Boy and Dirty Girl.

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Postby Moon-Crane » Sat May 19, 2007 4:02 pm

Well Ham has sneaked ahead with 3 votes. Obviously the other two voters are so ashamed that they couldn't post a reply about their choice ;)

(that's a joke, obviously)
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Re: Battle of the Seasons - Showdown

Postby Rodge » Sat May 19, 2007 4:09 pm

Cake for Brains wrote:Anywhere, take a look:

Season 1 (4 winning episodes)
Season 2 (5 winning episodes)
Season 3 (8 winning episodes)
Season 4 (4 winning episodes)
Season 5 (2 winning episodes)
Season 6 (no winning episodes)
Season 7 (1 winning episode)
Season 8 (no winning episodes)
Season 9 (no winning episodes)
Season 10 (no winning episodes)
Season 11 (no winning episodes)



Firstly let me thank Cakey for all his hard work and dedication (shouldn't you be revising :wink: ) It has obviously taken some effort, and it is very impressive.

From the list above, it looks like I only need to get S5, and I will then have the best of Frasier :shock:

My vote has gone to Moondance as always. But I feel My Coffee with Niles comes a close second.

Thanks again Cakey. :D
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Postby Mr Blue Sky » Sat May 19, 2007 5:30 pm

It's quite even so far isn't it, surprisingly.
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Postby Pisa32 » Sat May 19, 2007 5:34 pm

Yeah, I thought there would be tons of Ham Radio votes.
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Postby Mr Blue Sky » Sat May 19, 2007 5:37 pm

Pisa32 wrote:Yeah, I thought there would be tons of Ham Radio votes.


Don't speak too soon, they're on their way...

I'm determined to see something other than Ham Radio win one of these polls before I leave this site! :evil:
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Postby Bee Gees Fan » Sat May 19, 2007 5:40 pm

Beer Necessity wrote:I'm determined to see something other than Ham Radio win one of these polls before I leave this site! :evil:


That would please you, wouldn't it?

Well, it wouldn't please me, because I like it a lot. So (and this will please you even more) if it loses, you're going to have to cheer me up.
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Postby Bee Gees Fan » Sat May 19, 2007 5:53 pm

I voted for Ham Radio. Although The Ski Lodge and The Innkeepers are very close to it.
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Postby DHP » Sat May 19, 2007 6:02 pm

Beer Necessity wrote:
Pisa32 wrote:Yeah, I thought there would be tons of Ham Radio votes.


Don't speak too soon, they're on their way...

I'm determined to see something other than Ham Radio win one of these polls before I leave this site! :evil:


To me, that's like saying I'm determined to see something other than The Godfather or The Shawshank Redemption top imdb's top user-rated films. I'm happy to keep voting for the best episode of Frasier, because that's what it is. :D
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Postby Mr Blue Sky » Sat May 19, 2007 7:04 pm

DHP wrote:
Beer Necessity wrote:
Pisa32 wrote:Yeah, I thought there would be tons of Ham Radio votes.


Don't speak too soon, they're on their way...

I'm determined to see something other than Ham Radio win one of these polls before I leave this site! :evil:


To me, that's like saying I'm determined to see something other than The Godfather or The Shawshank Redemption top imdb's top user-rated films. I'm happy to keep voting for the best episode of Frasier, because that's what it is. :D


Grrrr... :lol:

I'm hoping it will lose it's appeal as time goes on. it has done for me!
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Postby Mr Blue Sky » Sat May 19, 2007 7:05 pm

Bee Gees Fan wrote:
Beer Necessity wrote:I'm determined to see something other than Ham Radio win one of these polls before I leave this site! :evil:


That would please you, wouldn't it?

Well, it wouldn't please me, because I like it a lot. So (and this will please you even more) if it loses, you're going to have to cheer me up.


Don't worry, I'll be happy to do that. Y'know, in that other thread...
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Postby Wezzo » Sat May 19, 2007 7:17 pm

DHP wrote:To me, that's like saying I'm determined to see something other than The Godfather or The Shawshank Redemption top imdb's top user-rated films. I'm happy to keep voting for the best episode of Frasier, because that's what it is. :D


That pretty much sums up my attitude. "Ham Radio" is one of the finest sitcom episodes of all-time, and nothing here can beat it for me.
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Postby Bee Gees Fan » Sat May 19, 2007 7:52 pm

Beer Necessity wrote:before I leave this site! :evil:


You're leaving this site? Or is that a reference to your June absence?
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Postby Mayday Malone » Sat May 19, 2007 8:14 pm

Aarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

Sorry, key slipped. Voted for My Coffee With Niles but so many oh so many!
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