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Postby Bee Gees Fan » Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:57 pm

Stratman wrote:In this day and age that would be insane. The robbers could very easily sue his ass.


You're right, but it was a movie, and neither of them were that badly hurt. And setting up a load of traps for burglars is still something I'd love to do.

On some forums once, there was a thread about burglars, and someone posted that they set up a sandpit trap in their garden, and a burglar fell into it and broke his leg. He tried to sue them, but according to the poster, he was laughed out of court.
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Postby pandeiro » Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:59 pm

Typical Saturday. I got home and then watched a few ep's of season 6. Then I had to make my way to the drum shop and taught a few students. That's kind of fun. They are just beginner hand drum players playing djembe and congas. Normally in Australia one would learn African rhythms on djembe and Afro Cuban rhythms on congas. But I don't do that because I want to help samba take off in this country. So I teach samba rhythms on those instruments. They are great rhythms, some ceremonial, others street dancing oriented. The rhythms are great fun and not too hard to learn.

So unbeknownst to the student, they get Afro Bahian rhythms that are usually played on drums called atabaque. A drum similar to the conga. Then as they get better I bring in other sinstruments, such as the pandeiro, and play along with them. They seem to enjoy this more than the standard mambo and cha cha cha rhythms from Cuba. Plus the Brazilian idea is that the student isn't just a student, the student also gets to create as they go and bring their own things to the table. Whereas the Afro Cuban thing is very strict. "You MUST play this rhythm in THIS way" kind of deal. It just isn't as user friendly as the Brazilian way of doing things.


I then hung around and used a practice room for 3 hours at no cost. :D

I got home at about 2 pm and watched another ep' and then crashed out.

Exciting eh? :roll:
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Postby pandeiro » Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:02 pm

Bee Gees Fan wrote:I hate thieves. When dealing with burglars, I think people should take a leaf out of Maculay Culkin's book.


I am currently reading Roman law. Some of the ways they dealt with thieves in the home were quite interesting. ;)
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Postby Bee Gees Fan » Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:04 pm

pandeiro wrote:I got home at about 2 pm and watched another ep' and then crashed out.

Exciting eh? :roll:


As long as you enjoyed yourself, that's what matters. :)

Besides, the most interesting thing that happened to me today is that I bought two books. So your day was an adventure in comparison. :)
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Postby Bee Gees Fan » Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:04 pm

pandeiro wrote:I am currently reading Roman law. Some of the ways they dealt with thieves in the home were quite interesting. ;)


What did they do, Pandeiro?
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Postby pandeiro » Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:10 pm

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pandeiro wrote:I am currently reading Roman law. Some of the ways they dealt with thieves in the home were quite interesting. ;)


What did they do, Pandeiro?


Basically just killed them. But there were all kinds of conditions depending upon whether or not the thief was a slave. Or if a slave robbed another slave and so on. There were even laws about how a crime would be viewed if, for example, a slave was wounded, and then later his house fell on him. :D

If a thief was caught red handed, he could be killed with no fault being leveled at he who killed him.

Some other penalties were for things like Patricide. The perp' was wrapped in a blanket with a monkey, a snake and a dog, and then thrown into the Tiber.

I'm still only reading the beginning sections so I imagine I will learn more as I go.

I read a lot of weird stuff like this just for fun. :D
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Postby Bee Gees Fan » Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:14 pm

pandeiro wrote:I read a lot of weird stuff like this just for fun. :D


I don't think it's weird. It sounds interesting. :) I'll have to remind myself not to steal anything when I go back to the Roman Ages.
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Postby Bee Gees Fan » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:21 pm

This isn't a summary of the day's events, but a hopeful prediction of what might happen: I may get the chance to be in a chatroom with a Bee Gee some time this week. Barry Gibb has his own website with a chat room in it, and there have been occasions on which he has popped in to talk with the fans who congregate there. I only started looking in a few months back, and one of the administrators did say that he'd probably be in this week, so fingers crossed! According to one of the fans, he usually comes it at 9 p.m. UK time.
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Postby Stratman » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:41 pm

Good luck.
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Postby Nervosa » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:57 pm

Yup, good luck BGF!

Things have been pretty good for me lately. Since I've got my own wheels again, I've been able to socialise with my friends more. And TGI Friday! :)
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Postby pandeiro » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:42 pm

Bee Gees Fan wrote:This isn't a summary of the day's events, but a hopeful prediction of what might happen: I may get the chance to be in a chatroom with a Bee Gee some time this week. Barry Gibb has his own website with a chat room in it, and there have been occasions on which he has popped in to talk with the fans who congregate there. I only started looking in a few months back, and one of the administrators did say that he'd probably be in this week, so fingers crossed! According to one of the fans, he usually comes it at 9 p.m. UK time.


Cool. There's been a couple of guys who've had websites who have posted on occassion. Stanley Clarke (famous bass player) used to post on his site. Branford Marsalis (Sting saxophonist) used to really get into it on his site and talk about controversial subject matter. But it got out of hand and he had to close it down. Frank Gambale (great jazz guitarist) posts on his site quite often when not on the road. And Phil Collins has at times posted on his own site. Usually to shut young drummers off who rag on people.
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Postby pandeiro » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:56 pm

Oh well, I'm bored and may as well bore you to death as well.

My week.

Well on Monday I played a few instruments for a friends demo CD. I recorded some conga tracks, bongos, timbales, shakers etc etc. This took two mornings working from 9 until 12.

I taught percussion and drumming on Wednesday.

On Thursday I was taken out to lunch by my friend and had a lovely seafood rissoto and some fine wine. It was very hot that day and the wine went straight to my head.

I then did a very foolish thing.

I visited the drum shop.

After spending $1500.00 in a mad drunken foray into the magical world poverty, I returned home and passed out.

I am now the proud father of 1 William F Ludwig limited edition brass snare drum.

It came with a lovely leather case.

It would not be so bad had I not then bought even more instruments, cases, heads etc.

They love me at the shop.

Tonight, or rather this morning, I am working in my friends hotel earning money for my year off in Brazil. If I keep buying equipment like I did this past week, I may end up stuck here.

I got another hard time from the drummers at the shop who keep asking me why I am not gigging and why the Hell I am working in a hotel???

I am not sure if my working here is a good idea. Even though I still play sessions on occassion, I get the distinct impression these guys are seeing me as no longer being a musician.

This idea seemed good at the time.

I've been wrong in the past though. But it's a better way of getting a regular income while saving.

Oh well, I'll just have to see how it all goes.
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Postby Bee Gees Fan » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:54 pm

pandeiro wrote:Oh well, I'm bored and may as well bore you to death as well.


You're not boring us, Pandeiro! :) I like hearing about what you've been doing!

Thanks for the good luck wishes, guys. :) Nervosa, what is TGI Friday?
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Postby pandeiro » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:00 pm

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pandeiro wrote:Oh well, I'm bored and may as well bore you to death as well.


You're not boring us, Pandeiro! :) I like hearing about what you've been doing!

Thanks for the good luck wishes, guys. :) Nervosa, what is TGI Friday?


You're a very kind person.

Just remember one thing as you travel through life, most people are not. ;)
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Postby Bee Gees Fan » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:06 pm

pandeiro wrote:You're a very kind person.

Just remember one thing as you travel through life, most people are not. ;)


Thanks Pandeiro. :)

You're quite cynical, aren't you? I don't mean that as an insult - cynicism can be quite endearing, as a matter of fact - it's just something I've noticed.

Have you ever read To Kill a Mockingbird? I try to think along the same lines as Atticus Finch at the end of the novel:


" 'An they chased him 'n' never could catch him 'cause they didn't know what he looked like, an' Atticus, when they finally saw him, why he hadn't done any of those things...Atticus, he was real nice...'

His hands were under my chin, pulling up the cover, tucking it around me.

'Most people are, Scout, when you finally see them.' "
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Postby pandeiro » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:29 pm

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pandeiro wrote:You're a very kind person.

Just remember one thing as you travel through life, most people are not. ;)


Thanks Pandeiro. :)

You're quite cynical, aren't you? I don't mean that as an insult - cynicism can be quite endearing, as a matter of fact - it's just something I've noticed.

Have you ever read To Kill a Mockingbird? I try to think along the same lines as Atticus Finch at the end of the novel:


" 'An they chased him 'n' never could catch him 'cause they didn't know what he looked like, an' Atticus, when they finally saw him, why he hadn't done any of those things...Atticus, he was real nice...'

His hands were under my chin, pulling up the cover, tucking it around me.

'Most people are, Scout, when you finally see them.' "


I seem to remember reading it when I was a kid. I can't really remember it though. (The only American author I ever liked was Kerouac)

I'd not describe myself as a cynic. I think I am simply a realist. My life has been such that I had to face facts honestly quite early. I tend to agree with Sartre, that we are the result of our past experiences. What you see in my posts is the results of those experiences. And I've had quite a few in my time.

One thing I'll say is that I have been able to build up a healthy collection of stories. Some involving my wonderment as the naked woman ran in circles around her yard trying to arouse me. It was too funny.

Then there was the time I heard the soft wisper in my ear:

"Shhhhhh, don't say anything. My husband's home and his mother's with him. I have to take the kids to little athletics. Don't make a sound."

As I looked around, I realised in despair that a. there were no curtains to hide behind. b. I couldn't remember where my clothes were. c. the bed was a mattress on the floor and I couldn't hide under it. d. the husband and mother were just outside the door talking. e. she really did pack the kids into the car and drive away! f. I had to somehow get out of there, make my way back to Sydney on public transport (because I'd not taken the tour bus home the previous night) so that I could be home and picked up for another tour at 11.00 am! g. Sydney was an hour's drive away.

Ahhhh, well I did get out of there and I did make the tour. ;)

Then there was the time that I was told, in a very serious meeting, that I could have all the fame I desired, just so long as I blew the record company chairman and allowed him to visit me from, er, behind.

Then there was a short period during my ill spent youth when I shared a house with 17 prostitutes.

That's an eye opener, let me tell you!

Well, perhaps not.

Then there was the time when I was working as a hand on a farm, aged about 12, when two men tried to rape me. Happily I got away because they were drunk. But I did walk nearly 80 miles to get back to the city and find another job and place to live.

I am not a cynic. Just a realist. ;)
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Postby Bee Gees Fan » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:25 pm

Pandeiro, you must be one of the most interesting people I've ever met on an Internet forum!

I really am sorry about some of the more horrible experiences you've had, though.

pandeiro wrote:I seem to remember reading it when I was a kid. I can't really remember it though. (The only American author I ever liked was Kerouac)


Oh, I like it. I'd recommend you try it again sometime. There are quite a few American authors that I like - you might like Jean Shepherd's books; he wrote short, amusing stories that tended to show the "harsh realities" of childhood and adolescence - there were a few hilarious "disastrous date" stories.

Plus, Jean Shepherd was quite a character. He was a radio personality on a New York radio from the 1950s to the 1970s. He once started this great Book Hoax. He was on in the early hours of the morning, and he suggested to his listeners that they invent a book. They came up with a title and the name of the author, the publisher, and some fake historical background on the guy, and then all his listeners went to bookstores the next day and started requesting it. Within weeks, the book was topping the bestsellers lists, and had been banned in Boston, and it didn't even exist! Eventually, Jean Shepherd came clean about the whole thing, but I think that was a pretty impressive stunt to pull off!

Also, the movie A Christmas Story is based on his book In God We Trust: All Others Pay Cash and it's narrated by him as well. It's a good movie.

So yes, I recommend Jean Shepherd's books to you, Pandeiro. You might like them.
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Postby pandeiro » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:35 pm

Bee Gees Fan wrote:Pandeiro, you must be one of the most interesting people I've ever met on an Internet forum!

I really am sorry about some of the more horrible experiences you've had, though.

pandeiro wrote:I seem to remember reading it when I was a kid. I can't really remember it though. (The only American author I ever liked was Kerouac)


Oh, I like it. I'd recommend you try it again sometime. There are quite a few American authors that I like - you might like Jean Shepherd's books; he wrote short, amusing stories that tended to show the "harsh realities" of childhood and adolescence - there were a few hilarious "disastrous date" stories.

Plus, Jean Shepherd was quite a character. He was a radio personality on a New York radio from the 1950s to the 1970s. He once started this great Book Hoax. He was on in the early hours of the morning, and he suggested to his listeners that they invent a book. They came up with a title and the name of the author, the publisher, and some fake historical background on the guy, and then all his listeners went to bookstores the next day and started requesting it. Within weeks, the book was topping the bestsellers lists, and had been banned in Boston, and it didn't even exist! Eventually, Jean Shepherd came clean about the whole thing, but I think that was a pretty impressive stunt to pull off!

Also, the movie A Christmas Story is based on his book In God We Trust: All Others Pay Cash and it's narrated by him as well. It's a good movie.

So yes, I recommend Jean Shepherd's books to you, Pandeiro. You might like them.


Okay, I'll keep my eyes open for them.

Interesting? Well, it's been interesting to live it. Now it's a bit dull. As for the bad experiences? Everyone has them. It's just life. You'll have yours too. I think the trick is to look at them, not as being negative, but for how interesting they are and what you can take from them. For example, you know what I remember from mum trying to strangle me? The expression on her face. Man, it was pretty funny! Even grief can be something that can add to a life. No human has made his or her way through life escaping it. Some people allow things to get them down. That is their choice. People who spend their time going "Woe is me" bore me to death.
My mate R, was saying that to me last week. I had a go at him and told him to get his shit together. ;)

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Postby Bee Gees Fan » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:19 pm

pandeiro wrote:Some people allow things to get them down. That is their choice. People who spend their time going "Woe is me" bore me to death.


I must admit, I do that quite frequently.

But in the cases of those people who actually suffer from depression, it can't really be helped. They just have to take medication (if it's bad enough to warrant medication) and hope it clears up.
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Postby Nervosa » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:44 am

Bee Gees Fan wrote:Nervosa, what is TGI Friday?


Thank God It's Friday! I'm suprised you've never heard of that, BGF. There's actually a chain of diners in America called TGI Friday.
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Postby Bee Gees Fan » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:47 am

Nervosa wrote:There's actually a chain of diners in America called TGI Friday.


I've never seen or even heard of one, despite my many holidays in America. We usually don't venture forth from the Carolinas, though - except for the time when we drove into Nashville, and Memphis (we did the tour of Elvis's home!) and then went to a place called Savannah, and then returned to North Carolina.

That was a lot of fun. :)
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Postby Stratman » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:50 am

I'm a little suprised you haven't heard of TGIF. :shock:
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Postby Bee Gees Fan » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:51 am

It's not something that's come up.

But I know of it now, however. Maybe I'll get the chance to go to one someday. Does anyone know if the food is good?
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Postby Nervosa » Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:01 pm

There was a programme in the UK a few years back called TFI Friday. Hoasted by Chris Evans. It doesn't take a genius to work out what the 'F' stands for. :wink:

I haven't heard what the foods like there, but I imagine it'd be pretty much the same standard as most diner type of places.
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Postby Bee Gees Fan » Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:38 pm

Well! I'm currently at the Barry Gibb chatroom, and a few minutes ago, he posted a message, saying he'd be back in 20 minutes. So...I'm hanging around there for a while! I'm hoping he'll be able to answer my question...people are asking him things left, right and centre when he's in there, so he can't answer them all. But I really hope he answers mine.
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