Mr Blue Sky wrote:Wish I'd put some money on Nadal now. There was never any doubt he was going to win that match once things started to turn in that second set. It's unfortunate for Murray that he has at least two (possibly three) of the greatest players of all time in front of him who will stop him ever winning a Grand Slam unless there's some kind of perfect storm of injuries. It's always been the way though. Henman had Sampras and Agassi to contend with and going way back Roger Taylor (who made 3 Wimbledon semis back in the '70s and '80s) had McEnroe and Borg. It's been generations since Britain could boast a genuinely world class tennis player.
Moon-Crane wrote:Not a spectacular final, but great win for Djokovic. Deserved world #1 for his run this year. Amazing era for the quality of players in the current men's game.
Kvitova looks like a handy player in the women's game. Top spot in women's tennis looks there for the taking.
Mr Blue Sky wrote:Moon-Crane wrote:Not a spectacular final, but great win for Djokovic. Deserved world #1 for his run this year. Amazing era for the quality of players in the current men's game.
Kvitova looks like a handy player in the women's game. Top spot in women's tennis looks there for the taking.
You still think Murray will win a slam after seeing Djokovic on Sunday? At 30 Federer is clearly in the decline but Nadal and Djokovic will always be on another level IMO.
Mr Blue Sky wrote:Murray's doing well here. I saw his match yesterday and his one today against Isner, he's been very impressive and looks like winning at a canter.
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Moon-Crane wrote:Mr Blue Sky wrote:Murray's doing well here. I saw his match yesterday and his one today against Isner, he's been very impressive and looks like winning at a canter.
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Yeah, he flew through yesterday after waiting through two days of rain. Looks like it's going to be the top four players in the semi-finals once again.
Mr Blue Sky wrote:Good effort from Murray last night but sadly for him Nadal just had too much class. He's done well getting to all 4 Grand Slam semis this year though - not many people have done that in the Open era.
Mr Blue Sky wrote:Another match for Murray today on what is forcast to be a rain-soaked court 1. Can't believe the administrators didn't stick him under the roof again. I've a feeling he'll lose this one actually - he's not in great form at the moment.
Moon-Crane wrote:Mr Blue Sky wrote:Another match for Murray today on what is forcast to be a rain-soaked court 1. Can't believe the administrators didn't stick him under the roof again. I've a feeling he'll lose this one actually - he's not in great form at the moment.
Yep, he'll kick himself if he doesn't make the most of Nadal's early exit to reach that final. Mind, i'd have been interested to see the real storm kick off if he'd been made to come off court without the match being finished at 11pm on Saturday evening.
Mr Blue Sky wrote:Moon-Crane wrote:Mr Blue Sky wrote:Another match for Murray today on what is forcast to be a rain-soaked court 1. Can't believe the administrators didn't stick him under the roof again. I've a feeling he'll lose this one actually - he's not in great form at the moment.
Yep, he'll kick himself if he doesn't make the most of Nadal's early exit to reach that final. Mind, i'd have been interested to see the real storm kick off if he'd been made to come off court without the match being finished at 11pm on Saturday evening.
I know - some common sense shown by those who run the game for once.
Mr Blue Sky wrote:Shame for Murray today. He looked pretty good in that first set but as soon as Federer hit his groove there was a gulf in class.
I doubt he'll get a better chance, unless Federer, Nadal and Djokovic somehow all get knocked out in the early rounds of a Slam.
Mr Blue Sky wrote:I know what you're saying, but Henman had to play during the Agassi/Sampras era and Roger Taylor had to play through the Laver and Borg eras. Murray deserves a lot of respect but I don't necessarily think he'd have automatically been a Slam winner in any other era.
Moon-Crane wrote:Mr Blue Sky wrote:I know what you're saying, but Henman had to play during the Agassi/Sampras era and Roger Taylor had to play through the Laver and Borg eras. Murray deserves a lot of respect but I don't necessarily think he'd have automatically been a Slam winner in any other era.
Fair point, but i think the Federer/Nadal/Djokovic trio are a phenomenon of the game. All three are effectively the top three in every single event. I'm sure i heard a commentator say they've won 32 of the last 35 grand slam tournaments?
Murray's faced Federer (x3) and Djokovic in four finals. Federer's first final win was against Philippousis, Nadal's was that Argentinian guy (i forget his name) and Djokovic faced Tsonga. If we remove the clay court player from the equation, i expect Murray would love to have faced Philippousis or Tsonga in a final on grass or hard court.
Edit: Took a quick look online for grand slam results - winners and runners-up. It's a pretty remarkable run in the last 8 or 9 years. Murray's found himself amongst a particularly outstanding, relentless, era.
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